I MADE COMMENT TO SOMEONE ABOUT HOW LAW AND dOCTRINE IS INVALID AND GOD LAW AND DOCTRINE IS TRUTH .

I had a cnversation about this morality with someone .

https://youtu.be/7HASeFY6NYw

teddy boef HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HASeFY6NYw&lc=UgxCgy2PlK-0VR8ZRd94AaABAg.8qvMOfrTxuh8qvh9XDCHl1"17 hours ago

Do not make this about religion but about human decency and common sense.

 

 

 teddy boef  what is common sense ? And human deceny ? Where does this come from ?

The atheists doctrine is rejecting of GOD for if there no GOD their is no authority over me essentially they embrace rebellion againts LORD GOD in serveing youself instead of GOD and resort to idoltary (

 

Psalm 23 King James Version (KJV)

23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

For as the woman is for man or child needs a parent created beings seek their creator to be their parent as david did with LORD GOD but people reject GOD and glorify things such as sun or moon or idols of silver or gold or the emperer as a god or he has divine right of kings but in modern times the state itself as god .) that would be secualar humanism that would belif in the state , human rights a system of governace of some kind weither leftism or rightism . so then cling to the state as their god so they god king worshippers essentially but the god they worship is the state itself a modern form of god king instead of man himself as a god . The worship of created things is known as idoltry ( anyway a world largest religon is not christianity but is statism a modern form of empreror worship ) ( .  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings

http://royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/the-absolute-right-to-rule-the-divine-right-of-kings-40465  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/god-king https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/emperors-cult

) .

so instead of pursuing things of sprite and livng by the law of GOD the inherent sense of good and evil which is the concious that is inaccordance with the law of GOD to obey GOD and love others as one self . the atheist chooses the flesh which put yourself before god and other . So the results of the pursuit of materialism instead of spritualism . this leads to spiritual discontentment . where the holy sprite should be is absent for as we are created for GOD to have realtionship with him that is point of our exstience to be inrelationship with GOD without GOD we have no point for exsitence .the result they become nhilist and that emptyness is what drives people to fill the emptyness of their hearts drugs, alcohol ,food , some kind of addiction but is futile enough is never enough . For only the love of GOD can fill the emptyness of our hearts they fill with materialism but are never satfified .

 

So as the atheist not merely are they discontented but as they reject GOD and reconcilation with him . they are condmend to die and ressurect once and then be destroyed for their sins .

 

So as they say there is no hope as we live once and then we will die and have no hope for eternal life so they say let us get drunk high out of our minds lets us get rich and serve ourselves to extract of this life as much pleasure as possible with no regard for others and to drown ourselves in pleasure . say sas a result they resort to evil driven by sheer hunger to consume pleasures as paul said

 

 

 

also in romans

 

Romans 1:18-32 King James Version (KJV)

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.



( Philippians 3:16-19 King James Version (KJV)

16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

)



They know him reject him believe a lie they are spritual disconented pursue materialism and pleasrues and to obtain such pleasure embrace evil to put themselves before GOD and others .they are like ravionous lions destructive to others , GOD and ultiantly themselves as their sins will condemned them and be as like satan a destroyer a evil corrupt things with no hope seeking only pleasure to get out of this life before they die and do not care how their action affect others.

 

So as i said in their nhilism and hopelessness but for desire to obtain pleasure from materialism .

 

they plot and secheme and kanive and commit great evil and then they say there is no GOD so who gives a shit there is no GOD or hope so let live richly and and this is cause of this malciousness .

 

so why do you have problem with what they did the store ?. what tells you care ?.

 

for it does not affect you they ( that took the food from the bin )should have decided not to stave they can't survive that means they deserve to starve and this was the mentality of the Nazis . for the vulnerable and for what they saw a genetically unfavorable traits in babies and children even though they were not deformed mentally or physical they killed them ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz8ge4aw8Ws ) . this idea of genetics suppriority and undesirable ( yet not deformed mentally or phyiscal ) traits that is what is drove eugenics so why do you care ? they were genetic garbage why would anybody care ? . human life which is cannot sustain itself has no inherent value not only is worthless but predatory to which is not of any value but negative evil thing . so let them not be oppressor and exsploit that what is good so kill the crippled or old or vunerable for they are garbage that does not deserve to live for it cannot sustain itself iti s worthy of death for a unnessary burdan that should be destroyed for if they did not want to be destroyed they should have deiced not to be vunerable .

 

. So who is it that say they have a right to life ? and where does morality come from ? .The atheist view There is no Good or evil but only survival , consumption and their biological insticnts eat shit drink .

That is the mindset of a atheist .

atheists bleive in survival of the fittest and social Darwinism they believe mass murder is okay .they believe war and also slavery is okay for i am merely fighting for my survival .

 

so it is okay they say there is no good or evil just or unjust merely to survive for there is not GOD or beyond eat . for as no one to decided Good and evil so what i deem is righteous and just or as wrong and unjust is what i say and is the TRUTH . Fpr i have right to decided good and evil as it is my right . If i were to say murder theft and explostaiion is okay for i decided that it was and we all do what is right in our own eyes( as like in the book of judges . the hebrews rejected LORD GOD as there king and choose a human king that exsplited them )or is it mob desiced but what happens when they say let murders the jews but one shall say lets not murder them who is correct . so where does it come from good or evil ? And what is morality ? and who decied it or is inherently in us ? .

 

 

just a small repeat SO what deiced good and evil man doctrine or a god ?.

 

atheists bleive in survival of fittest and social Darwinism they believe mass murder is okay they believe and that slavery is okay for it am merely fighting for my survival so it is okay there is no good or evil just of unjust merely to survive for there is not GOD no one to decided Good and evil so what i deem is righteous and just or as wrong and i say murder theft ad explostaiion is okay for i decided that it was and we all do what is right in our own eyes( like the hebrew rejected LORD GOD as there king and choose a human king that exsplited them )or is it mob desiced but what happens when they say let murders the jews but one shall say lets not murder them who is correct ? and what measure is succes or failure descied by if one mans policy leads to destuction of millions but according to his standard it is a success but to another is a failure so according to who is correct ? For in one mans view say it is good and another evil but if measure it to one mane standard it is good but anothey man standard says it is bad . So who is right ? For if both have a right they are both legtimate for it is their right so both a right accoridng standard but if you take the conclusion and measure them according to the other man standard they are wrong so both are right and both are wrong . so right or not to decided good and evil it illegatmate by either having no right to do so or is nullifed by contraction standards of good and evil . Ultiamtly it comes down to power who has the power to impose themselves weither through numbers or guns or what ever form it might be .



but ultiamtly LORD GOD decied good and evil and as it is written stone the builders rejected has become the head of the cornor and two whom shall fall on shall be broken and the one whom it falls on shall be ground into powder.

TRUTH VS POWER LORD GOD WORD IS THE TRUTH VS POWER OF MAN DOCTRINE .

GOD has set the standard of good and evil and those who adhere to it and who accepts him as their LORD and obeys them so they shall be justifed via christ and live on to eternity with GOD and shall go back to the garden and live forever but those who reject GOD and will not obey shall be destroyed though the wicked weild the power of death but because this person as sinned againts GOD by putting himself before and other GOD shall destroy him and will destroy as much as he before he is destroyed but the man who is loyal to LORD GOD shall be ressurected and beyond the hands of the wicked and shall never suffer again for LORD GOD wield power over life and death and those who die in christ shall live forever for LORD GOD can ressurcect and put to death whom he wishs at his will he is THE LORD GOD the LORD of HEAVEN AND EARTH and his LAW is the TRUE LAW OF LOVE for in us is sprite that tell us to serve GOD love others our selves but corrupted humanity is defile what should come natural is unatural for we inheirt the corrupt nature from adam and eve and now a standard is set those who adhere to GOD standard of Good and evil shall be killed by world in rebellion in league with devil who serves themselvs and put thesleves before other and there is tohse in obdience a minority the wicked will kill them but GOD shall raise them up on the last day and beyond the ravnous claws of the wicked and live forever but the wicked killed by God and then ressurected recognize christ then killed again they shall remain in the grave forever while the christians live in renewed earth with LORD GOD and JESUS and fellow christians .

JESUS said .

John 15:19

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations





so there is obedience to GOd and life and hated of this world

 

and slain then ressurected on the last day then life on to eternity with GOD and they are beyond the hands of devil and his children . Then there is rebellion and loved of men then killed by GOD for you sins and then ressurected 1000 years after christ second coming and die after they recoginze christ then die again this time for good .



As ot is written Matthew 21:42-44 King James Version (KJV)

42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.



SUMMING UP THE DOCTRINE OF MAN .

 

 

 

what post i posted somewhere else and someone understood and agreed though it was difficult . here is summary man made doctrine are inherently illegitimate .if you have right to decried what is good and evil so does a another man if but have right the same man will have right as mob of people if one man says kill the Jews and mob says that is bad or the mob says kill the jews that a man says that is bad . now then if there is a policy that will kill one million people one says that is bad and another says it is a success who is right ? for both have a inherent right to deiced good and evil and both contradict each but because both have a right to do

 so both are right and both are wrong for according to the man who said it is success but his view measured against the other mans view standard is wrong but if according to his standard it is he correct and the other man's standard it is wrong and vise versa the other man standard says it is failure and the other success . anyway both are right and wrong .

Human doctrine is inherently illegitimate right or not .

 

Ultimately it comes down to power who has the power to impose themselves weither through numbers or guns or what ever form it might be .

but ultiamtly LORD GOD decied good and evil and as it is written stone the builders rejected has become the head of the cornor and two whom shall fall on shall be broken and the one whom it falls on shall be ground into powder.

 

TRUTH VS POWER :LORD GOD WORD IS THE TRUTH VS POWER OF MAN DOCTRINE .
GOD has set the standard of good and evil and those who adhere to it and who accepts him as their LORD and obeys them so they shall be justifed via christ and live on to eternity with GOD and shall go back to the garden and live forever but those who reject GOD and will not obey shall be destroyed though the wicked weild the power of death but because this person as sinned againts GOD by putting himself before and other GOD shall destroy him and will destroy as much as he before he is destroyed but the man who is loyal to LORD GOD shall be ressurected and beyond the hands of the wicked and shall never suffer again .

 

for LORD GOD wield power over life and death and those who die in christ shall live forever for LORD GOD can ressurcect and put to death whom he wishs at his will he is THE LORD GOD the LORD of HEAVEN AND EARTH and his LAW is the TRUE LAW OF LOVE . for in us is sprite that tell us to serve GOD love others our selves but corrupted humanity is defile what should come natural is unnatural for we inheirt the corrupt nature from adam and eve and now a standard is set those who adhere to GOD standard of Good and evil shall be killed by this world for the whole world is in rebellion in league with devil . The children of the devil who serves themselves and put thesleves before other and there is those in obedience a minority the wicked will kill them but GOD shall raise them up on the last day and beyond the ravenous claws of the wicked and live forever with GOD in relationship with him in the garden but the wicked killed by God and then shall be ressurected they will recognize recognize Christ then killed again they shall remain in the grave forever while the christians live in renewed earth with LORD GOD and JESUS and fellow christians .
JESUS said .
John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations


so there is obedience to GOd and life and hated of this world

and be slain then ressurected on the last day then life on to eternity with GOD and they are beyond the hands of devil and his children . Then there is rebellion and loved of men then killed by GOD for your sins and then ressurected 1000 years after christ second coming and die after they recoginze christ then die again this time for good .

As ot is written Matthew 21:42-44 King James Version (KJV)
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

hat ipost i posted somewhere else and understood and agreed though it was difficult
this man did and he agreeded with me .
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Ooowhee! I forced myself to read your narrative to the end. I just got back from a much needed nap following the reading

I believe that I can agree with what you have said. I just found it extremely difficult to read your long comment due the utter lack of proper punctuation, run together sentences that would make running bulls in Spain blush with embarrassment and absolutely no break in the rant.
Other than that, I might assume that you may be, by some slim chance, that of your actually being SPOT ON. G'day

 

 

 

 

  MrAranton 

 

you said ' I think even having these discussions give theists too much ground. "Objective morality", "ultimate justice" and the like are reasons why religious people want a god to exist. But listing reasons why it would be nice if something existed is no way relevant to the question whether it actually does exist. I can list a lot of reasons why it would be nice if there were a billion dollars in my bank account. But doing so won't put those billion dollars there. Ultimately I have to come to terms with the fact that there are no billion dollars in my bank account no matter how nice that would be. '

it is written .


Matthew 22:36-40 King James Version (KJV)

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


Romans 7:14-24 King James Version (KJV)

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

1 Timothy 4:1-5 King James Version (KJV)

4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

my response is very simple in the beginning we loved the LORD GOD will all heart soul and strength and love others as ourselves but after the fall we become corrupted . now we have to contrary forces once that is law of GOD and law of flesh which is the inversion of the law OF GOD . as i previously spoke in my previous comment we have a inherent sense of good and evil from divine authority without there is not such thing as good and evil then people blame GOD saying their is some much evil and suffering in the world without a inherent sense of good and evil nobody would care when people doubt that LORd God is decider of good and evil i say he is creator his nature is masucline knowing what is good and evil while creation feminine nature is absence of knowledge but what is received ( knowledge ) from GOD .

 

so my question i will asked is related to previous post .

it is written

Isaiah 29:16
Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

Isaiah 64:8
But now, O Lord, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

 

do you know what Yahweh means ' he will be ' he is not being thought up by man but GOD has always existed but it was GOD that created man.

here is scenario to establish whether a preexisting GOD's law of love GOD's standard of good and evil exists or not ( matthew 22 36 -40 which is heart of law of GOD and from which thou shalt not murder , steal , adultery etc derive from . )

https://people.com/crime/victim-accuses-ex-ohio-teacher-grooming-him-sex-age-12-having-his-baby/ .

now my question is it okay for grown woman to fak a 9 yeer old b0 y ? . they what happen in America when old woman fak young b0ys ?.

 

so my first question do you or or anybody have right to decided good and evil ?

if not regardless of weither for or anti is you deciding weither good or evil is illegitimate as you do not have right to deiced good and evil .

secondly question if you have right to decided good and evil ?

if two people one is for and the other anti for both have right to decided good and evil for according to one it is okay according to that person standard of good and evil and other is contrary to his standard of good and evil . so if both are right according to their own standard of good and evil a but is wrong according to other contrary standard of good and evil . so who is right ? ( NOTE the standard of good and evil is decided by man and is not hinged any other factor or creteira as decidning good and evil is a right regardless of consequence if good or bad . deciding good and evil is a right and only what is good or evil is decided by the mind of standard setter matters nothing else . .)

 

who is correct ( note barring the use of power to impose one self and their standard )? .

for both are right according to their. own standard but wrong according to standard of the other and cannot impose themselves and dominate demaning adherence to their standard or negetive repurcussion but right alone . so they nullify each other as both have the same right and are cancelling each other as both are right and wrong . so it is nullifed made of no effect .

so it is not right or wrong with a right to decied good and evil

 

so if there is inherent sense of good and evil ( a inherent standard of good and evil ) in us which is not derived of our own mind but influences us there must be standard setter therfore a intelligent mind behind it so a GOD and his standard is in our minds ( but we can adhere to it or sear our concious and make it of no effect ). if not what makes a woman fak a 12 year 0ld wrong ? , if both are wrong and right . so if we bear a right it is it is nullifed by contradicitng standard and as both have right ( which is not connect to creiteria or consequences but right to deicded what is good and evil ) so both the one who is pro or the person who is anti standard are 100 % legitmate and both are right accordinig to their own standard and wrong according to the other standard so because they contradict each they are nullifed so it is neither right or wrong or if humans do not have the right to decied good and evil are both postion are 100 % illegetiamte as you do not have right to deiced good and evil .

but we know intutivily it is wrong for a grown woman to have sax with a 12 year old

so humans cannot deiced good and evil but if their is a  standard of good and evil that is inherently in us but is not derived of own minds but influences us we can either adhere to or go againts it so there must was be intellgience behind that standard that is inherently in us and influences so a GOD  and he deiced what is good and evil not humans .