• 95 Years Since The Assassination Of Dr. DeHaan By The Zionists
    On July 2, 2019, a group of Jews went to visit the gravesite of Professor Yaakov Yisroel DeHaan, the 95th anniversary of his murder at the hands of the Zionists.

    DeHaan was an important political activist who worked alongside Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld in the 1920’s to establish the Eidah Chareidis, the anti-Zionist Jewish community of the Holy Land, as an independent community not represented by the Zionists.

    His many political connections, his mastery of diplomacy and his work with Arab leaders to find a haven for Jews outside of the context of Zionism posed a threat to the Zionists, and in 1924 they assassinated him.

    The inscription on his gravestone reads: “Here lies the exceptional scholar and professor, Dr. Yaakov Yisroel ben Yitzchak Halevi DeHaan, who gave up a promising career and placed his life in danger to fight like a lion and a warrior, fearlessly advocating with all his heart and soul for the establishment of the Orthodox Jewish community here in Jerusalem.

    He was murdered by wicked men in the prime of his youth on Monday night, 29 Sivan 5684 (June 30, 1924). He came to the Holy Land in 1919 and became an ally of G-d-fearing leaders. Through his advice and wisdom he assisted them and accomplished great things. He supported numerous charitable organizations in the Holy Land.”

    Rabbi Leibel Deutsch, a heroic anti-Zionist activist from Jerusalem, led the visit and gave a short speech in honor of Dr. DeHaan:

    It is written regarding Rabbi Akiva, who was killed by the Romans for teaching Torah, Only G-d knows how great his reward in the World to Come is.

    R’ Yaakov Yisroel knew that his work would cost him his life
    and he sacrificed his life in order to break down Zionism, the movement that wanted to erase the existence of the Jewish people.

    Not only did he allow himself to be killed rather than be a Zionist, he also fought against the whole idolatry of Zionism, at the risk of his life and he fought to raise the honor of the Jewish people.

    Certainly his soul now rests in a high place, a place that no eye but G-d can see. Not even the prophets had the privilege to see the eternal reward of those who are murdered for the sanctification of G-d’s name.

    May G-d help that his merit should protect us, especially here, where we are suffering for more than 70 years under this heretical government, which is constantly trying to uproot the Torah, constantly fighting against G-d. We can’t see how we will ever be free of them.

    We need much Heavenly mercy, to remain with our faith, we and our children.

    May G-d help, in the merit of this holy martyr R’ Yaakov Yisroel ben Yitzchok Isaac Halevi, may he pray for us before G-d’s throne, that the complete redemption should come soon, the messiah should already come and we should be able to continue with the true Jewish faith and not be influenced by the nationalism of Zionism and the whole heresy associated with it.

    We should hold on tight to our faith, in the merit of this holy martyr.

    In conclusion, the participants chanted parts of the payers of the Jewish High Holidays:

    Our Father, our King, avenge before our eyes the spilled blood of Your servants!
    Our Father, our King, act for the sake of those killed because of Your holy name!
    Our Father, our King, act for the sake of those slaughtered because of Your oneness!
    Our Father, our King, act for the sake of those who walk through fire and water for the sanctification of Your name!
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    Neturei Karta 8/25/19
    95 Years Since The Assassination Of Dr. DeHaan By The Zionists On July 2, 2019, a group of Jews went to visit the gravesite of Professor Yaakov Yisroel DeHaan, the 95th anniversary of his murder at the hands of the Zionists. DeHaan was an important political activist who worked alongside Rabbi Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld in the 1920’s to establish the Eidah Chareidis, the anti-Zionist Jewish community of the Holy Land, as an independent community not represented by the Zionists. His many political connections, his mastery of diplomacy and his work with Arab leaders to find a haven for Jews outside of the context of Zionism posed a threat to the Zionists, and in 1924 they assassinated him. The inscription on his gravestone reads: “Here lies the exceptional scholar and professor, Dr. Yaakov Yisroel ben Yitzchak Halevi DeHaan, who gave up a promising career and placed his life in danger to fight like a lion and a warrior, fearlessly advocating with all his heart and soul for the establishment of the Orthodox Jewish community here in Jerusalem. He was murdered by wicked men in the prime of his youth on Monday night, 29 Sivan 5684 (June 30, 1924). He came to the Holy Land in 1919 and became an ally of G-d-fearing leaders. Through his advice and wisdom he assisted them and accomplished great things. He supported numerous charitable organizations in the Holy Land.” Rabbi Leibel Deutsch, a heroic anti-Zionist activist from Jerusalem, led the visit and gave a short speech in honor of Dr. DeHaan: It is written regarding Rabbi Akiva, who was killed by the Romans for teaching Torah, Only G-d knows how great his reward in the World to Come is. R’ Yaakov Yisroel knew that his work would cost him his life and he sacrificed his life in order to break down Zionism, the movement that wanted to erase the existence of the Jewish people. Not only did he allow himself to be killed rather than be a Zionist, he also fought against the whole idolatry of Zionism, at the risk of his life and he fought to raise the honor of the Jewish people. Certainly his soul now rests in a high place, a place that no eye but G-d can see. Not even the prophets had the privilege to see the eternal reward of those who are murdered for the sanctification of G-d’s name. May G-d help that his merit should protect us, especially here, where we are suffering for more than 70 years under this heretical government, which is constantly trying to uproot the Torah, constantly fighting against G-d. We can’t see how we will ever be free of them. We need much Heavenly mercy, to remain with our faith, we and our children. May G-d help, in the merit of this holy martyr R’ Yaakov Yisroel ben Yitzchok Isaac Halevi, may he pray for us before G-d’s throne, that the complete redemption should come soon, the messiah should already come and we should be able to continue with the true Jewish faith and not be influenced by the nationalism of Zionism and the whole heresy associated with it. We should hold on tight to our faith, in the merit of this holy martyr. In conclusion, the participants chanted parts of the payers of the Jewish High Holidays: Our Father, our King, avenge before our eyes the spilled blood of Your servants! Our Father, our King, act for the sake of those killed because of Your holy name! Our Father, our King, act for the sake of those slaughtered because of Your oneness! Our Father, our King, act for the sake of those who walk through fire and water for the sanctification of Your name! #TrueJudaismNOTZionism #YaakovYisroelDeHaan #ZionismNotOfElohim https://youtu.be/f9YFUvSXUyo Neturei Karta 8/25/19
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  • My take on Isaiah 53

    According to Jewish tradition, Isaiah was writing about the People of Israel personified as The Suffering Servant of the Lord. There are no less than 8 quotations that show this to be the case. Please note that in the following four quotations, all from the Book of Isaiah, it is the People of Israel who are called the Servant of God:

    Notice that the servant is, Jacob, who was named Israel and regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites.

    Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 41:8 But you, Israel My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, who loved Me,

    Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 44: 21 Remember these, O Jacob; and Israel, for you are My servant; I formed you that you be a servant to Me, Israel, do not forget Me.

    Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 45:4 For the sake of My servant Jacob, and Israel My chosen one, and I called to you by your name; I surnamed you, yet you have not known Me.

    Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 49: 3 And He said to me, "You are My servant, Israel, about whom I will boast."

    Isaiah 43:10 is a very interesting verse.

    Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 43: 10 "You are My witnesses," says the Lord, "and My servant whom I chose," in order that you know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me no god was formed and after Me none shall be.

    The above verse tells us that the Jewish People are plural when G-d uses the term 'witnesses,' but the People of Israel are also referred to in this same verse in the singular in the word, 'servant,' the very same word that we find in Isaiah 53.

    Early in the Book of Isaiah, God predicts the long and difficult exile of the Jewish people. Chapter 53 occurs in the midst of Isaiah's "Messages of Consolation," which tell of the restoration of Israel to prominence as God's chosen people.

    The key to understanding this chapter lies in correctly identifying who is speaking. Though the book was written by Isaiah, verses 53:1-10 are told from the perspective of world leaders. Following in the footsteps of the previous chapter (Isaiah 52:15 – “the kings will shut their mouths in amazement”), these verses describe how world leaders will be shocked with disbelief when God’s Servant Israel – despite all contrary expectations – is vindicated and blossoms in the Messianic age.

    Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 53

    1 Who would have believed our report, and to whom was the arm of the Lord revealed?

    Rashi’s commentary

    Who would have believed our report: So will the nations say to one another, Were we to hear from others what we see, it would be unbelievable.

    the arm of the Lord: like this, with greatness and glory, to whom was it revealed until now?

    In this opening verse, world leaders are shocked at the incredible news of Israel’s salvation: “Who would believe what we have heard!”

    This verse refers to “the arm of God.” Throughout the Tanakh, God's "arm" (זרוע) always denotes a redemption of the Jewish people from physical persecution. For example, God took the Jews out of Egypt “with a strong hand and an outstretched arm” (Deut. 26:8). (See also Exodus 3:20, 6:6, 14:31, 15:6; Deut. 4:34, 7:19; Isaiah 51:9, 52:10, 62:8, 63:12; Jeremiah 21:5, 27:5; Ezekiel 20:33; Psalms 44:3, 89:11, 98:1, 136:12).

    2 And he came up like a sapling before it, and like a root from dry ground, he had neither form nor comeliness; and we saw him that he had no appearance. Now shall we desire him?

    Rashi’s commentary

    And he came up like a sapling before it: This people, before this greatness came to it, was a very humble people, and it came up by itself like a sapling of the saplings of the trees.

    and like a root: he came up from dry land.

    neither form: had he in the beginning, nor comeliness.

    and we saw him that he had no appearance. Now shall we desire him?: And when we saw him from the beginning without an appearance, how could we desire him?

    Now shall we desire him?: This is a question.

    This imagery of a tree struggling to grow in dry earth is a metaphor for the Jewish struggle in exile. A young sapling in dry ground appears that it will die. The Jews were always a small nation, at times as small as 2 million people, threatened with extinction. In this verse Isaiah describes Israel’s miraculous return from exile, like a sapling that sprouts from this dry ground. This idea appears throughout the Jewish Bible (see Isaiah 60:21, Ezekiel 19:13, Hosea 14:6-7, Amos 9:15).

    3 Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account.

    Rashi’s commentary

    Despised and rejected by men: was he. So is the custom of this prophet: he mentions all Israel as one man, e.g., (44:2), “Fear not, My servant Jacob” ; (44:1) “And now, hearken, Jacob, My servant.” Here too (52:13), “Behold My servant shall prosper,” he said concerning the house of Jacob. יַשְׂכִּיל is an expression of prosperity. Comp. (I Sam. 18:14) “And David was successful (מַשְׂכִּיל) in all his ways.”

    and as one who hides his face from us: Because of their intense shame and humility, they were as one who hides his face from us, with their faces bound up in concealment, in order that we not see them, like a plagued man who hides his face and is afraid to look.

    This verse describes the Servant as universally despised and rejected. This has been a historical theme for the Jewish people, as a long list of oppressors have treated the Jews as sub-human (the Nazis) or as a pariah state (the United Nations). See similar imagery in Isaiah 49:7, 60:15; Psalms 44:14; Nechemia 3:36.

    While this description clearly applies to Israel, it cannot be reconciled with the New Testament account which describes Jesus as immensely popular (Matthew 4:25). “Large crowds” of people came from far and wide to hear him speak, and Jesus had to sail into the water to avoid being overrun by the crowds (Mark 3:7-9). Luke 2:52 describes him as physically strong and well respected, a man whose popularity spread and was "praised by all" (Luke 4:14-15). A far cry from Isaiah’s description of “despised and rejected.”

    Although Jesus died a criminal's death, Isaiah is describing someone for whom rejection has spanned the ages – obviously referring to a nation, not an individual who suffered rejection for only a few hours.

    4 Indeed, he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, yet we accounted him as plagued, smitten by God and oppressed.

    Rashi’s commentary

    Indeed, he bore our illnesses: Heb. אָכֵן, an expression of ‘but’ in all places. But now we see that this came to him not because of his low state, but that he was chastised with pains so that all the nations be atoned for with Israel’s suffering. The illness that should rightfully have come upon us, he bore.

    yet we accounted him: We thought that he was hated by the Omnipresent, but he was not so, but he was pained because of our transgressions and crushed because of our iniquities.

    Throughout the centuries of Israel’s exile, many nations persecuted the Jews on the pretense that it was God’s way of “punishing” the “accursed” Jews for having stubbornly rejected the new religions. In these verses, until the end of the chapter, the nations confess how they used the Jewish people as scapegoats, not for the “noble” reasons they had long claimed.

    Indeed, the nations selfishly persecuted the Jews as a distraction from their own corrupt regimes: “Surely our suffering he did bear, and our pains he carried...” (53:4)

    5 But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed.

    Rashi’s commentary

    the chastisement of our welfare was upon him: The chastisement due to the welfare that we enjoyed, came upon him, for he was chastised so that there be peace for the entire world.

    Isaiah 53:5 is a classic example of mistranslation: The verse does not say, “He was wounded for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities,” which could convey the vicarious suffering ascribed to Jesus. Rather, the proper translation is: “But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities;” This conveys that the Servant suffered as a result of the sinfulness of others – not the opposite as Christians contend – that the Servant suffered to atone for the sins of others.

    Indeed, the Christian idea directly contradicts the basic Jewish teaching that God promises forgiveness to all who sincerely return to Him; thus there is no need for the Messiah to atone for others (Isaiah 55:6-7, Jeremiah 36:3, Ezekiel chapters 18 and 33, Hoseah 14:1-3, Jonah 3:6-10, Proverbs 16:6, Daniel 4:27, 2-Chronicles 7:14).

    My favorite verses for G-d’s mercy comes from Ezekiel chapters 18;

    Yechezkel - Ezekiel - Chapter 18

    20 The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

    21 And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

    22 All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live.

    23 Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live?

    24 And when the righteous repents of his righteousness and does wrong and does like all the abominations that the wicked man did, shall he live? All his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered; in his treachery that he has perpetrated and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die.

    6 We all went astray like sheep, we have turned, each one on his way, and the Lord accepted his prayers for the iniquity of all of us.

    Rashi’s commentary

    We all went astray like sheep: Now it is revealed that all the heathens (nations [mss.]) had erred.

    accepted his prayers: He accepted his prayers and was appeased concerning the iniquity of all of us, that He did not destroy His world.

    accepted… prayers: Heb. הִפְגִּיעַ, espriad in O.F., an expression of supplication.

    The nations realize that their lack of proper leadership (“shepherd”) caused them to treat the Jews with disdain. They further acknowledge how punishments that should have befallen the nations were averted through Israel’s suffering.

    7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he would not open his mouth; like a lamb to the slaughter he would be brought, and like a ewe that is mute before her shearers, and he would not open his mouth.

    Rashi’s commentary

    He was oppressed, and he was afflicted: Behold he was oppressed by taskmasters and people who exert pressure.

    and he was afflicted: with verbal taunts, sorparlec in O.F.

    yet he would not open his mouth: He would suffer and remain silent like the lamb that is brought to the slaughter, and like the ewe that is mute before her shearers.

    and he would not open his mouth: This refers to the lamb brought to the slaughter.

    In various contexts, the Bible uses the imagery of “sheep led to the slaughter” specifically in reference to the Jewish people. For example: "You give us as sheep to be eaten and have scattered us among the nations... we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered" (Psalms 44:12, 23).

    This verse prophesizes the many hardships – both physical torment and economic exploitation – that the Jews endured in exile. Ironically, this prophecy refers in part to the 11th century Crusaders who "persecuted and afflicted” the Jews in the name of Jesus. In our time, while Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe were "led to the slaughter," they still remained like a "lamb that is silent before her shearers" – without complaints against God.

    8 From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken, and his generation who shall tell? For he was cut off from the land of the living; because of the transgression of my people, a plague befell them.

    Rashi’s commentary

    From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken: The prophet reports and says that the heathens (nations [mss., K’li Paz]) will say this at the end of days, when they see that he was taken from the imprisonment that he was imprisoned in their hands and from the judgment of torments that he suffered until now.

    and his generation: The years that passed over him.

    who shall tell?: The tribulations that befell him, for from the beginning, he was cut off and exiled from the land of the living that is the land of Israel for because of the transgression of my people, this plague came to the righteous among them.

    The phrase, "land of the living” (Eretz HaChaim) refers specifically to the Land of Israel. Thus this verse, “He was removed from the land of the living,” does not mean that the servant was killed, but rather was exiled from the Land of Israel.

    This verse again describes the world’s surprise at witnessing the Jewish return to the Promised Land. "Who could have imagined” that the nation we tortured now prospers? World leaders offer a stunning confession: “Because of my people’s sin, they [the Jews] were afflicted.”

    Here the text makes absolutely clear that the oppressed Servant is a collective nation, not a single individual. This is where knowledge of biblical Hebrew is absolutely crucial. At the end of the verse, the Hebrew word for “they were” (lamoh – לָמוֹ) always refers to a group, never to an individual. (see for example, Psalms 99:7)

    9 And he gave his grave to the wicked, and to the wealthy with his kinds of death, because he committed no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth.

    Rashi’s commentary

    And he gave his grave to the wicked: He subjected himself to be buried according to anything the wicked of the heathens (nations [mss., K’li Paz]) would decree upon him, for they would penalize him with death and the burial of donkeys in the intestines of the dogs.

    to the wicked: According to the will of the wicked, he was willing to be buried, and he would not deny the living God.

    and to the wealthy with his kinds of death: and to the will of the ruler he subjected himself to all kinds of death that he decreed upon him, because he did not wish to agree to (denial) [of the Torah] to commit evil and to rob like all the heathens (nations [mss., K’li Paz]) among whom he lived.

    and there was no deceit in his mouth: to accept idolatry (to accept a pagan deity as God [Parshandatha]).

    Throughout history, Jews were given the choice to “convert or die.” Yet as this verse describes, there was “no deceit in his mouth” – the loyal Jews refused to accept a pagan deity as their God. Rather than profane God’s Holy Name, they “submitted to the grave” – i.e. chose to die rather than renounce their faith. As such these Jews were often denied proper burial, discarded “to the grave as evil people.”

    Further, wealthy Jews "submitted to his executions, for committing no crime" – killed so that wicked conquerors could confiscate their riches.

    10 And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand.

    Rashi’s commentary

    And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill: The Holy One, blessed be He, wished to crush him and to cause him to repent; therefore, he made him ill.

    If his soul makes itself restitution, etc.: Said the Holy One, blessed be He, “I will see, if his soul will be given and delivered with My holiness to return it to Me as restitution for all that he betrayed Me, I will pay him his recompense, and he will see children, etc.” This word אָשָׁם is an expression of ransom that one gives to the one against when he sinned, amende in O.F., to free from faults, similar to the matter mentioned in the episode of the Philistines (I Sam. 6:3), “Do not send it away empty, but you shall send back with it a guilt offering (אָשָׁם).”

    "God desired to oppress” the Jewish people, in order to inspire them to return to Torah observance. If the Jews would only "acknowledge guilt," they would see their "offspring and live long days." This refers to the Messianic era when all Jews will return to Torah observance.

    This verse emphasizes that the Servant is to be rewarded with long life and many children.

    In this verse, the Hebrew word for "offspring" (zera - זֶרַע) always refers to physical descendants (see Genesis 12:7, 15:2-4, 15:13, 46:6; Exodus 28:43). A different word, banim (בנים), generally translated as "sons," is used to refer to spiritual descendants (see Deut. 14:1).

    11 From the toil of his soul he would see, he would be satisfied; with his knowledge My servant would vindicate the just for many, and their iniquities he would bear.

    Rashi’s commentary

    From the toil of his soul: he would eat and be satisfied, and he would not rob and plunder.

    with his knowledge… would vindicate the just: My servant would judge justly all those who came to litigate before him.

    and their iniquities he would bear: He would bear, in the manner of all the righteous, as it is said (Num. 18:1): “You and your sons shall bear the iniquity of the sanctuary.

    One’s sins being forgiven through the suffering of another person goes against the basic biblical teaching that each individual has to atone for his own sins by repenting. (Exodus 32:32-33, Deut. 24:16, Ezekiel 18:1-4)

    This verse describes how God’s Servant “will cause the masses to be righteous” – not as some mistranslate, “he will justify the many." The Jewish mission is to serve as a "light to the nations," leading the world to righteousness through knowledge of the one true God. The Jews will accomplish this both by example (Deut. 4:5-8; Zechariah 8:23) and by instructing the nations in God's Law (Isaiah 2:3-4; Micah 4:2-3). As it says: “The world will become full of the knowledge of God, as water covers the sea” (Isaiah 11:9).

    12 Therefore, I will allot him a portion in public, and with the strong he shall share plunder, because he poured out his soul to death, and with transgressors he was counted; and he bore the sin of many, and interceded for the transgressors.

    Rashi’s commentary

    Therefore: Because he did this, I will allot him an inheritance and a lot in public with the Patriarchs.

    he poured out his soul to death: Heb. הֶעֱרָה. An expression like (Gen. 24: 20), “And she emptied (וַתְּעַר) her pitcher.”

    and with transgressors he was counted: He suffered torments as if he had sinned and transgressed, and this is because of others; he bore the sin of the many.

    and interceded for the transgressors: through his sufferings, for good came to the world through him.

    This verse speaks of how the Jews always pray for the welfare of the nations they are exiled into (see Jeremiah 29:7). The verse continues to explain that the Jewish people, who righteously bore the sins of the world and yet remained faithful to God, will be rewarded.

    Regarding the above passage, some have claimed that the "suffering servant" cannot be Israel, since Israel has sins. Yet this is a fallacy, since we know that no human being – not even Moses – is completely free of sin. Yet Moses was considered “righteous,” which takes into account not only one's good deeds, but also one's repentance after sin.

    Melachim I - I Kings - Chapter 8

    46 If they sin against You, for (there is) no man who does not sin, and You will be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, and their captors will carry them away captive to the land of the enemy, far or near.

    47 And they shall bethink themselves in the land where they were carried captive, and repent, and make supplication to You in the land of their captors, saying, 'We have sinned, and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness.'

    48 And they shall return to You with all their heart, and with all their soul, in the land of their enemies, who led them away captive, and pray to You toward their land, which You gave to their fathers, the city that You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your Name.

    49 And you shall hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven, Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause.

    50 And forgive Your people what they have sinned against You, and all their transgressions that they have transgressed against You, and give mercy before their captors, that they may have mercy on them.

    Immediately following this promise of reward for the Jews’ suffering (53:10-12), chapter 54 clearly speaks of the redemption which awaits the Jewish people.
    My take on Isaiah 53 According to Jewish tradition, Isaiah was writing about the People of Israel personified as The Suffering Servant of the Lord. There are no less than 8 quotations that show this to be the case. Please note that in the following four quotations, all from the Book of Isaiah, it is the People of Israel who are called the Servant of God: Notice that the servant is, Jacob, who was named Israel and regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites. Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 41:8 But you, Israel My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham, who loved Me, Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 44: 21 Remember these, O Jacob; and Israel, for you are My servant; I formed you that you be a servant to Me, Israel, do not forget Me. Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 45:4 For the sake of My servant Jacob, and Israel My chosen one, and I called to you by your name; I surnamed you, yet you have not known Me. Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 49: 3 And He said to me, "You are My servant, Israel, about whom I will boast." Isaiah 43:10 is a very interesting verse. Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 43: 10 "You are My witnesses," says the Lord, "and My servant whom I chose," in order that you know and believe Me, and understand that I am He; before Me no god was formed and after Me none shall be. The above verse tells us that the Jewish People are plural when G-d uses the term 'witnesses,' but the People of Israel are also referred to in this same verse in the singular in the word, 'servant,' the very same word that we find in Isaiah 53. Early in the Book of Isaiah, God predicts the long and difficult exile of the Jewish people. Chapter 53 occurs in the midst of Isaiah's "Messages of Consolation," which tell of the restoration of Israel to prominence as God's chosen people. The key to understanding this chapter lies in correctly identifying who is speaking. Though the book was written by Isaiah, verses 53:1-10 are told from the perspective of world leaders. Following in the footsteps of the previous chapter (Isaiah 52:15 – “the kings will shut their mouths in amazement”), these verses describe how world leaders will be shocked with disbelief when God’s Servant Israel – despite all contrary expectations – is vindicated and blossoms in the Messianic age. Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 53 1 Who would have believed our report, and to whom was the arm of the Lord revealed? Rashi’s commentary Who would have believed our report: So will the nations say to one another, Were we to hear from others what we see, it would be unbelievable. the arm of the Lord: like this, with greatness and glory, to whom was it revealed until now? In this opening verse, world leaders are shocked at the incredible news of Israel’s salvation: “Who would believe what we have heard!” This verse refers to “the arm of God.” Throughout the Tanakh, God's "arm" (זרוע) always denotes a redemption of the Jewish people from physical persecution. For example, God took the Jews out of Egypt “with a strong hand and an outstretched arm” (Deut. 26:8). (See also Exodus 3:20, 6:6, 14:31, 15:6; Deut. 4:34, 7:19; Isaiah 51:9, 52:10, 62:8, 63:12; Jeremiah 21:5, 27:5; Ezekiel 20:33; Psalms 44:3, 89:11, 98:1, 136:12). 2 And he came up like a sapling before it, and like a root from dry ground, he had neither form nor comeliness; and we saw him that he had no appearance. Now shall we desire him? Rashi’s commentary And he came up like a sapling before it: This people, before this greatness came to it, was a very humble people, and it came up by itself like a sapling of the saplings of the trees. and like a root: he came up from dry land. neither form: had he in the beginning, nor comeliness. and we saw him that he had no appearance. Now shall we desire him?: And when we saw him from the beginning without an appearance, how could we desire him? Now shall we desire him?: This is a question. This imagery of a tree struggling to grow in dry earth is a metaphor for the Jewish struggle in exile. A young sapling in dry ground appears that it will die. The Jews were always a small nation, at times as small as 2 million people, threatened with extinction. In this verse Isaiah describes Israel’s miraculous return from exile, like a sapling that sprouts from this dry ground. This idea appears throughout the Jewish Bible (see Isaiah 60:21, Ezekiel 19:13, Hosea 14:6-7, Amos 9:15). 3 Despised and rejected by men, a man of pains and accustomed to illness, and as one who hides his face from us, despised and we held him of no account. Rashi’s commentary Despised and rejected by men: was he. So is the custom of this prophet: he mentions all Israel as one man, e.g., (44:2), “Fear not, My servant Jacob” ; (44:1) “And now, hearken, Jacob, My servant.” Here too (52:13), “Behold My servant shall prosper,” he said concerning the house of Jacob. יַשְׂכִּיל is an expression of prosperity. Comp. (I Sam. 18:14) “And David was successful (מַשְׂכִּיל) in all his ways.” and as one who hides his face from us: Because of their intense shame and humility, they were as one who hides his face from us, with their faces bound up in concealment, in order that we not see them, like a plagued man who hides his face and is afraid to look. This verse describes the Servant as universally despised and rejected. This has been a historical theme for the Jewish people, as a long list of oppressors have treated the Jews as sub-human (the Nazis) or as a pariah state (the United Nations). See similar imagery in Isaiah 49:7, 60:15; Psalms 44:14; Nechemia 3:36. While this description clearly applies to Israel, it cannot be reconciled with the New Testament account which describes Jesus as immensely popular (Matthew 4:25). “Large crowds” of people came from far and wide to hear him speak, and Jesus had to sail into the water to avoid being overrun by the crowds (Mark 3:7-9). Luke 2:52 describes him as physically strong and well respected, a man whose popularity spread and was "praised by all" (Luke 4:14-15). A far cry from Isaiah’s description of “despised and rejected.” Although Jesus died a criminal's death, Isaiah is describing someone for whom rejection has spanned the ages – obviously referring to a nation, not an individual who suffered rejection for only a few hours. 4 Indeed, he bore our illnesses, and our pains-he carried them, yet we accounted him as plagued, smitten by God and oppressed. Rashi’s commentary Indeed, he bore our illnesses: Heb. אָכֵן, an expression of ‘but’ in all places. But now we see that this came to him not because of his low state, but that he was chastised with pains so that all the nations be atoned for with Israel’s suffering. The illness that should rightfully have come upon us, he bore. yet we accounted him: We thought that he was hated by the Omnipresent, but he was not so, but he was pained because of our transgressions and crushed because of our iniquities. Throughout the centuries of Israel’s exile, many nations persecuted the Jews on the pretense that it was God’s way of “punishing” the “accursed” Jews for having stubbornly rejected the new religions. In these verses, until the end of the chapter, the nations confess how they used the Jewish people as scapegoats, not for the “noble” reasons they had long claimed. Indeed, the nations selfishly persecuted the Jews as a distraction from their own corrupt regimes: “Surely our suffering he did bear, and our pains he carried...” (53:4) 5 But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed. Rashi’s commentary the chastisement of our welfare was upon him: The chastisement due to the welfare that we enjoyed, came upon him, for he was chastised so that there be peace for the entire world. Isaiah 53:5 is a classic example of mistranslation: The verse does not say, “He was wounded for our transgressions and crushed for our iniquities,” which could convey the vicarious suffering ascribed to Jesus. Rather, the proper translation is: “But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities;” This conveys that the Servant suffered as a result of the sinfulness of others – not the opposite as Christians contend – that the Servant suffered to atone for the sins of others. Indeed, the Christian idea directly contradicts the basic Jewish teaching that God promises forgiveness to all who sincerely return to Him; thus there is no need for the Messiah to atone for others (Isaiah 55:6-7, Jeremiah 36:3, Ezekiel chapters 18 and 33, Hoseah 14:1-3, Jonah 3:6-10, Proverbs 16:6, Daniel 4:27, 2-Chronicles 7:14). My favorite verses for G-d’s mercy comes from Ezekiel chapters 18; Yechezkel - Ezekiel - Chapter 18 20 The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. 21 And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live. 23 Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live? 24 And when the righteous repents of his righteousness and does wrong and does like all the abominations that the wicked man did, shall he live? All his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered; in his treachery that he has perpetrated and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die. 6 We all went astray like sheep, we have turned, each one on his way, and the Lord accepted his prayers for the iniquity of all of us. Rashi’s commentary We all went astray like sheep: Now it is revealed that all the heathens (nations [mss.]) had erred. accepted his prayers: He accepted his prayers and was appeased concerning the iniquity of all of us, that He did not destroy His world. accepted… prayers: Heb. הִפְגִּיעַ, espriad in O.F., an expression of supplication. The nations realize that their lack of proper leadership (“shepherd”) caused them to treat the Jews with disdain. They further acknowledge how punishments that should have befallen the nations were averted through Israel’s suffering. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he would not open his mouth; like a lamb to the slaughter he would be brought, and like a ewe that is mute before her shearers, and he would not open his mouth. Rashi’s commentary He was oppressed, and he was afflicted: Behold he was oppressed by taskmasters and people who exert pressure. and he was afflicted: with verbal taunts, sorparlec in O.F. yet he would not open his mouth: He would suffer and remain silent like the lamb that is brought to the slaughter, and like the ewe that is mute before her shearers. and he would not open his mouth: This refers to the lamb brought to the slaughter. In various contexts, the Bible uses the imagery of “sheep led to the slaughter” specifically in reference to the Jewish people. For example: "You give us as sheep to be eaten and have scattered us among the nations... we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered" (Psalms 44:12, 23). This verse prophesizes the many hardships – both physical torment and economic exploitation – that the Jews endured in exile. Ironically, this prophecy refers in part to the 11th century Crusaders who "persecuted and afflicted” the Jews in the name of Jesus. In our time, while Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe were "led to the slaughter," they still remained like a "lamb that is silent before her shearers" – without complaints against God. 8 From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken, and his generation who shall tell? For he was cut off from the land of the living; because of the transgression of my people, a plague befell them. Rashi’s commentary From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken: The prophet reports and says that the heathens (nations [mss., K’li Paz]) will say this at the end of days, when they see that he was taken from the imprisonment that he was imprisoned in their hands and from the judgment of torments that he suffered until now. and his generation: The years that passed over him. who shall tell?: The tribulations that befell him, for from the beginning, he was cut off and exiled from the land of the living that is the land of Israel for because of the transgression of my people, this plague came to the righteous among them. The phrase, "land of the living” (Eretz HaChaim) refers specifically to the Land of Israel. Thus this verse, “He was removed from the land of the living,” does not mean that the servant was killed, but rather was exiled from the Land of Israel. This verse again describes the world’s surprise at witnessing the Jewish return to the Promised Land. "Who could have imagined” that the nation we tortured now prospers? World leaders offer a stunning confession: “Because of my people’s sin, they [the Jews] were afflicted.” Here the text makes absolutely clear that the oppressed Servant is a collective nation, not a single individual. This is where knowledge of biblical Hebrew is absolutely crucial. At the end of the verse, the Hebrew word for “they were” (lamoh – לָמוֹ) always refers to a group, never to an individual. (see for example, Psalms 99:7) 9 And he gave his grave to the wicked, and to the wealthy with his kinds of death, because he committed no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth. Rashi’s commentary And he gave his grave to the wicked: He subjected himself to be buried according to anything the wicked of the heathens (nations [mss., K’li Paz]) would decree upon him, for they would penalize him with death and the burial of donkeys in the intestines of the dogs. to the wicked: According to the will of the wicked, he was willing to be buried, and he would not deny the living God. and to the wealthy with his kinds of death: and to the will of the ruler he subjected himself to all kinds of death that he decreed upon him, because he did not wish to agree to (denial) [of the Torah] to commit evil and to rob like all the heathens (nations [mss., K’li Paz]) among whom he lived. and there was no deceit in his mouth: to accept idolatry (to accept a pagan deity as God [Parshandatha]). Throughout history, Jews were given the choice to “convert or die.” Yet as this verse describes, there was “no deceit in his mouth” – the loyal Jews refused to accept a pagan deity as their God. Rather than profane God’s Holy Name, they “submitted to the grave” – i.e. chose to die rather than renounce their faith. As such these Jews were often denied proper burial, discarded “to the grave as evil people.” Further, wealthy Jews "submitted to his executions, for committing no crime" – killed so that wicked conquerors could confiscate their riches. 10 And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand. Rashi’s commentary And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill: The Holy One, blessed be He, wished to crush him and to cause him to repent; therefore, he made him ill. If his soul makes itself restitution, etc.: Said the Holy One, blessed be He, “I will see, if his soul will be given and delivered with My holiness to return it to Me as restitution for all that he betrayed Me, I will pay him his recompense, and he will see children, etc.” This word אָשָׁם is an expression of ransom that one gives to the one against when he sinned, amende in O.F., to free from faults, similar to the matter mentioned in the episode of the Philistines (I Sam. 6:3), “Do not send it away empty, but you shall send back with it a guilt offering (אָשָׁם).” "God desired to oppress” the Jewish people, in order to inspire them to return to Torah observance. If the Jews would only "acknowledge guilt," they would see their "offspring and live long days." This refers to the Messianic era when all Jews will return to Torah observance. This verse emphasizes that the Servant is to be rewarded with long life and many children. In this verse, the Hebrew word for "offspring" (zera - זֶרַע) always refers to physical descendants (see Genesis 12:7, 15:2-4, 15:13, 46:6; Exodus 28:43). A different word, banim (בנים), generally translated as "sons," is used to refer to spiritual descendants (see Deut. 14:1). 11 From the toil of his soul he would see, he would be satisfied; with his knowledge My servant would vindicate the just for many, and their iniquities he would bear. Rashi’s commentary From the toil of his soul: he would eat and be satisfied, and he would not rob and plunder. with his knowledge… would vindicate the just: My servant would judge justly all those who came to litigate before him. and their iniquities he would bear: He would bear, in the manner of all the righteous, as it is said (Num. 18:1): “You and your sons shall bear the iniquity of the sanctuary. One’s sins being forgiven through the suffering of another person goes against the basic biblical teaching that each individual has to atone for his own sins by repenting. (Exodus 32:32-33, Deut. 24:16, Ezekiel 18:1-4) This verse describes how God’s Servant “will cause the masses to be righteous” – not as some mistranslate, “he will justify the many." The Jewish mission is to serve as a "light to the nations," leading the world to righteousness through knowledge of the one true God. The Jews will accomplish this both by example (Deut. 4:5-8; Zechariah 8:23) and by instructing the nations in God's Law (Isaiah 2:3-4; Micah 4:2-3). As it says: “The world will become full of the knowledge of God, as water covers the sea” (Isaiah 11:9). 12 Therefore, I will allot him a portion in public, and with the strong he shall share plunder, because he poured out his soul to death, and with transgressors he was counted; and he bore the sin of many, and interceded for the transgressors. Rashi’s commentary Therefore: Because he did this, I will allot him an inheritance and a lot in public with the Patriarchs. he poured out his soul to death: Heb. הֶעֱרָה. An expression like (Gen. 24: 20), “And she emptied (וַתְּעַר) her pitcher.” and with transgressors he was counted: He suffered torments as if he had sinned and transgressed, and this is because of others; he bore the sin of the many. and interceded for the transgressors: through his sufferings, for good came to the world through him. This verse speaks of how the Jews always pray for the welfare of the nations they are exiled into (see Jeremiah 29:7). The verse continues to explain that the Jewish people, who righteously bore the sins of the world and yet remained faithful to God, will be rewarded. Regarding the above passage, some have claimed that the "suffering servant" cannot be Israel, since Israel has sins. Yet this is a fallacy, since we know that no human being – not even Moses – is completely free of sin. Yet Moses was considered “righteous,” which takes into account not only one's good deeds, but also one's repentance after sin. Melachim I - I Kings - Chapter 8 46 If they sin against You, for (there is) no man who does not sin, and You will be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, and their captors will carry them away captive to the land of the enemy, far or near. 47 And they shall bethink themselves in the land where they were carried captive, and repent, and make supplication to You in the land of their captors, saying, 'We have sinned, and have done perversely, we have committed wickedness.' 48 And they shall return to You with all their heart, and with all their soul, in the land of their enemies, who led them away captive, and pray to You toward their land, which You gave to their fathers, the city that You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your Name. 49 And you shall hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven, Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause. 50 And forgive Your people what they have sinned against You, and all their transgressions that they have transgressed against You, and give mercy before their captors, that they may have mercy on them. Immediately following this promise of reward for the Jews’ suffering (53:10-12), chapter 54 clearly speaks of the redemption which awaits the Jewish people.
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  • LORD GOD's TRUTH VS the DOCTRINE MANS POWER . if you have trouble read my post scroll down till you and i made a summary #########################

    I had a conversation about this morality with someone .

    https://youtu.be/7HASeFY6NYw


    teddy boef HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HASeFY6NYw&lc=UgxCgy2PlK-0VR8ZRd94AaABAg.8qvMOfrTxuh8qvh9XDCHl1"17 hours ago
    Do not make this about religion but about human decency and common sense.


    ​ teddy boef  what is common sense ? And human deceny ? Where does this come from ?

    atheists ( serveing youself instead of GOD) and idolatry ( a world largest religon is not christianity is statism a modern form of empreror worship ) leads to spiritual discontentment that drives materialism as they say there is no hope so let us get drunk high out of our minds lets get rich and serve ourselves and drown ourselves in pleasure they say so as a result they resort to evil driven by sheer hunger to consume they plot and secheme and kanive and to commit great evil and who say there is no GOD so gives a shit there is no GOD or hope so let live richly and and this is cause of this malciousness .so why do you have problem with what they did the store ? what tells you care ?

    for it does not affect you they ( that took the food from the bin )should have decided not stave they can't survive that means they deserve to starve and this was the mentality of the Nazi for the vulnerable and for what they saw a genetically unfavorable traits in babies and children even though they were no deformed mentally or physical they killed them ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz8ge4aw8Ws ) . this idea of genetics suppriority and undesirable ( yet not deformed mentally or phyiscal ) traits that what is drove eugenics so why do you care ? they were genetic garbage why would anybody care ? . anyway and where does morality come from ? atheists bleive in survival of fittest and social Darwinism they believe mass murder is okay they believe and that slavery is okay for it am merely fighting for my survival so it is okay there is no good or evil just of unjust merely to survive for there is not GOD no one to decided Good and evil so what i deem is righteous and just or as wrong and i say murder theft ad explostaiion is okay for i decided that it was and we all do what is right in our own eyes( like the hebrew rejected LORD GOD as there king and choose a human king that exsplited them )or is it mob desiced but what happens when the say let murders the jews but one shall say lets not murder them who is correct . so where does it come from good or evil immoral and who decied it and about morality .




    atheists bleive in survival of fittest and social Darwinism they believe mass murder is okay they believe and that slavery is okay for it am merely fighting for my survival so it is okay there is no good or evil just of unjust merely to survive for there is not GOD no one to decided Good and evil so what i deem is righteous and just or as wrong and i say murder theft ad explostaiion is okay for i decided that it was and we all do what is right in our own eyes( like the hebrew rejected LORD GOD as there king and choose a human king that exsplited them )or is it mob desiced but what happens when they say let murders the jews but one shall say lets not murder them who is correct ? and what measure is succes or fail descied by if one mans policy leads to destuction of millions but according to his standard it is a success but to another is a failure so according to who is correct ? . so where does it come from good or evil immoral and who decied it and about morality what is it why does it exists ? Ultiamtly it comes down to power who has the power to impose themselves weither through numbers or guns or what ever form it might be .

    but ultiamtly LORD GOD decied good and evil and as it is written stone the builders rejected has become the head of the cornor and two whom shall fall on shall be broken and the one whom it falls on shall be ground into powder.
    TRUTH VS POWER LORD GOD WORD IS THE TRUTH VS POWER OF MAN DOCTRINE .
    GOD has set the standard of good and evil and those who adhere to it and who accepts him as their LORD and obeys them so they shall be justifed via christ and live on to eternity with GOD and shall go back to the garden and live forever but those who reject GOD and will not obey shall be destroyed though the wicked weild the power of death but because this person as sinned againts GOD by putting himself before and other GOD shall destroy him and will destroy as much as he before he is destroyed but the man who is loyal to LORD GOD shall be ressurected and beyond the hands of the wicked and shall never suffer again for LORD GOD wield power over life and death and those who die in christ shall live forever for LORD GOD can ressurcect and put to death whom he wishs at his will he is THE LORD GOD the LORD of HEAVEN AND EARTH and his LAW is the TRUE LAW OF LOVE for in us is sprite that tell us to serve GOD love others our selves but corrupted humanity is defile what should come natural is unatural for we inheirt the corrupt nature from adam and eve and now a standard is set those who adhere to GOD standard of Good and evil shall be killed by world in rebellion in league with devil who serves themselvs and put thesleves before other and there is tohse in obdience a minority the wicked will kill them but GOD shall raise them up on the last day and beyond the ravnous claws of the wicked and live forever but the wicked killed by God and then ressurected recognize christ then killed again they shall remain in the grave forever while the christians live in renewed earth with LORD GOD and JESUS and fellow christians .
    JESUS said .
    John 15:19
    If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations


    so there is obedience to GOd and life and hated of this world

    and slain then ressurected on the last day then life on to eternity with GOD and they are beyond the hands of devil and his children . Then there is rebellion and loved of men then killed by GOD for you sins and then ressurected 1000 years after christ second coming and die after they recoginze christ then die again this time for good .

    As ot is written Matthew 21:42-44 King James Version (KJV)
    42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
    43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
    44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.



    .i said woman should not dress as a whore .

    a atheist man concurred he said he was saw 15 16 year olds wearing tight spandex and i said accoridng to your bleife of naturlaism there is only instinct to mate and reproduce so why not take them and if they resist beat them into submission and then impregnant them he is man so why not there is nothing wrong with there is only a desire to mate and follow his instinct where did it come from that sense of disgust ? why though was he disgusted ? .

    unless there is a GOD to decied good and evil and place this in us though we are corrupted and we can numb our contencious by searing it . the ten commadments are known to all we inherently know to break them is wrong for morality conscious and the place of holy sprite weither it there or not points to a GOD
    PAUL spoke about this ROMANS 7 KJV
    . 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
    15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
    16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
    17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
    18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
    19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
    20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
    21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
    22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
    23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
    24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

    for in us is flesh which is at odds with GOD and other then there is the law of GOD that tells us to serve GOD and love others as ourself . For if we where without the sprite we would just be a vegtable it was not until God put in the breath of life into adam did adam become a living soul . we were pure then became corrupted and persihing dieing you shall die ############################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################# IF YOU HAD TROUBLE READING MY POST HERE IS A SUMMARY . here is summary man made doctrine are inherently illegitimate .if you have right to decried what is good and evil so does a another man if but have right the same man will have right as mob of people if one man says kill the Jews and mob says that is bad or the mob says kill the jews that a man says that is bad . now then if there is a policy that will kill one million people one says that is bad and another says it is a success who is right ? for both have a inherent right to deiced good and evil and both contradict each but because both have a right to do

     so both are right and both are wrong for according to the man who said it is success but his view measured against the other mans view standard is wrong but if according to his standard it is he correct and the other man's standard it is wrong and vise versa the other man standard says it is failure and the other success . anyway both are right and wrong .
    Human doctrine is inherently illegitimate right or not .

    Ultimately it comes down to power who has the power to impose themselves weither through numbers or guns or what ever form it might be .

    but ultiamtly LORD GOD decied good and evil and as it is written stone the builders rejected has become the head of the cornor and two whom shall fall on shall be broken and the one whom it falls on shall be ground into powder.


    TRUTH VS POWER :LORD GOD WORD IS THE TRUTH VS POWER OF MAN DOCTRINE .
    GOD has set the standard of good and evil and those who adhere to it and who accepts him as their LORD and obeys them so they shall be justifed via christ and live on to eternity with GOD and shall go back to the garden and live forever but those who reject GOD and will not obey shall be destroyed though the wicked weild the power of death but because this person as sinned againts GOD by putting himself before and other GOD shall destroy him and will destroy as much as he before he is destroyed but the man who is loyal to LORD GOD shall be ressurected and beyond the hands of the wicked and shall never suffer again .

    for LORD GOD wield power over life and death and those who die in christ shall live forever for LORD GOD can ressurcect and put to death whom he wishs at his will he is THE LORD GOD the LORD of HEAVEN AND EARTH and his LAW is the TRUE LAW OF LOVE . for in us is sprite that tell us to serve GOD love others our selves but corrupted humanity is defile what should come natural is unnatural for we inheirt the corrupt nature from adam and eve and now a standard is set those who adhere to GOD standard of Good and evil shall be killed by this world for the whole world is in rebellion in league with devil . The children of the devil who serves themselves and put thesleves before other and there is those in obedience a minority the wicked will kill them but GOD shall raise them up on the last day and beyond the ravenous claws of the wicked and live forever with GOD in relationship with him in the garden but the wicked killed by God and then shall be ressurected they will recognize recognize Christ then killed again they shall remain in the grave forever while the christians live in renewed earth with LORD GOD and JESUS and fellow christians .
    JESUS said .
    John 15:19
    If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations


    so there is obedience to GOd and life and hated of this world

    and be slain then ressurected on the last day then life on to eternity with GOD and they are beyond the hands of devil and his children . Then there is rebellion and loved of men then killed by GOD for your sins and then ressurected 1000 years after christ second coming and die after they recoginze christ then die again this time for good .

    As ot is written Matthew 21:42-44 King James Version (KJV)
    42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
    43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
    44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

    hat ipost i posted somewhere else and understood and agreed though it was difficult
    this man did and he agreeded with me .
     Zaphod Bebelbrox

    Ooowhee! I forced myself to read your narrative to the end. I just got back from a much needed nap following the reading

    I believe that I can agree with what you have said. I just found it extremely difficult to read your long comment due the utter lack of proper punctuation, run together sentences that would make running bulls in Spain blush with embarrassment and absolutely no break in the rant.
    Other than that, I might assume that you may be, by some slim chance, that of your actually being SPOT ON. G'day
    LORD GOD's TRUTH VS the DOCTRINE MANS POWER . if you have trouble read my post scroll down till you and i made a summary ######################### I had a conversation about this morality with someone . https://youtu.be/7HASeFY6NYw teddy boef HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HASeFY6NYw&lc=UgxCgy2PlK-0VR8ZRd94AaABAg.8qvMOfrTxuh8qvh9XDCHl1"17 hours ago Do not make this about religion but about human decency and common sense. ​ teddy boef  what is common sense ? And human deceny ? Where does this come from ? atheists ( serveing youself instead of GOD) and idolatry ( a world largest religon is not christianity is statism a modern form of empreror worship ) leads to spiritual discontentment that drives materialism as they say there is no hope so let us get drunk high out of our minds lets get rich and serve ourselves and drown ourselves in pleasure they say so as a result they resort to evil driven by sheer hunger to consume they plot and secheme and kanive and to commit great evil and who say there is no GOD so gives a shit there is no GOD or hope so let live richly and and this is cause of this malciousness .so why do you have problem with what they did the store ? what tells you care ? for it does not affect you they ( that took the food from the bin )should have decided not stave they can't survive that means they deserve to starve and this was the mentality of the Nazi for the vulnerable and for what they saw a genetically unfavorable traits in babies and children even though they were no deformed mentally or physical they killed them ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz8ge4aw8Ws ) . this idea of genetics suppriority and undesirable ( yet not deformed mentally or phyiscal ) traits that what is drove eugenics so why do you care ? they were genetic garbage why would anybody care ? . anyway and where does morality come from ? atheists bleive in survival of fittest and social Darwinism they believe mass murder is okay they believe and that slavery is okay for it am merely fighting for my survival so it is okay there is no good or evil just of unjust merely to survive for there is not GOD no one to decided Good and evil so what i deem is righteous and just or as wrong and i say murder theft ad explostaiion is okay for i decided that it was and we all do what is right in our own eyes( like the hebrew rejected LORD GOD as there king and choose a human king that exsplited them )or is it mob desiced but what happens when the say let murders the jews but one shall say lets not murder them who is correct . so where does it come from good or evil immoral and who decied it and about morality . atheists bleive in survival of fittest and social Darwinism they believe mass murder is okay they believe and that slavery is okay for it am merely fighting for my survival so it is okay there is no good or evil just of unjust merely to survive for there is not GOD no one to decided Good and evil so what i deem is righteous and just or as wrong and i say murder theft ad explostaiion is okay for i decided that it was and we all do what is right in our own eyes( like the hebrew rejected LORD GOD as there king and choose a human king that exsplited them )or is it mob desiced but what happens when they say let murders the jews but one shall say lets not murder them who is correct ? and what measure is succes or fail descied by if one mans policy leads to destuction of millions but according to his standard it is a success but to another is a failure so according to who is correct ? . so where does it come from good or evil immoral and who decied it and about morality what is it why does it exists ? Ultiamtly it comes down to power who has the power to impose themselves weither through numbers or guns or what ever form it might be . but ultiamtly LORD GOD decied good and evil and as it is written stone the builders rejected has become the head of the cornor and two whom shall fall on shall be broken and the one whom it falls on shall be ground into powder. TRUTH VS POWER LORD GOD WORD IS THE TRUTH VS POWER OF MAN DOCTRINE . GOD has set the standard of good and evil and those who adhere to it and who accepts him as their LORD and obeys them so they shall be justifed via christ and live on to eternity with GOD and shall go back to the garden and live forever but those who reject GOD and will not obey shall be destroyed though the wicked weild the power of death but because this person as sinned againts GOD by putting himself before and other GOD shall destroy him and will destroy as much as he before he is destroyed but the man who is loyal to LORD GOD shall be ressurected and beyond the hands of the wicked and shall never suffer again for LORD GOD wield power over life and death and those who die in christ shall live forever for LORD GOD can ressurcect and put to death whom he wishs at his will he is THE LORD GOD the LORD of HEAVEN AND EARTH and his LAW is the TRUE LAW OF LOVE for in us is sprite that tell us to serve GOD love others our selves but corrupted humanity is defile what should come natural is unatural for we inheirt the corrupt nature from adam and eve and now a standard is set those who adhere to GOD standard of Good and evil shall be killed by world in rebellion in league with devil who serves themselvs and put thesleves before other and there is tohse in obdience a minority the wicked will kill them but GOD shall raise them up on the last day and beyond the ravnous claws of the wicked and live forever but the wicked killed by God and then ressurected recognize christ then killed again they shall remain in the grave forever while the christians live in renewed earth with LORD GOD and JESUS and fellow christians . JESUS said . John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations so there is obedience to GOd and life and hated of this world and slain then ressurected on the last day then life on to eternity with GOD and they are beyond the hands of devil and his children . Then there is rebellion and loved of men then killed by GOD for you sins and then ressurected 1000 years after christ second coming and die after they recoginze christ then die again this time for good . As ot is written Matthew 21:42-44 King James Version (KJV) 42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. .i said woman should not dress as a whore . a atheist man concurred he said he was saw 15 16 year olds wearing tight spandex and i said accoridng to your bleife of naturlaism there is only instinct to mate and reproduce so why not take them and if they resist beat them into submission and then impregnant them he is man so why not there is nothing wrong with there is only a desire to mate and follow his instinct where did it come from that sense of disgust ? why though was he disgusted ? . unless there is a GOD to decied good and evil and place this in us though we are corrupted and we can numb our contencious by searing it . the ten commadments are known to all we inherently know to break them is wrong for morality conscious and the place of holy sprite weither it there or not points to a GOD PAUL spoke about this ROMANS 7 KJV . 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? for in us is flesh which is at odds with GOD and other then there is the law of GOD that tells us to serve GOD and love others as ourself . For if we where without the sprite we would just be a vegtable it was not until God put in the breath of life into adam did adam become a living soul . we were pure then became corrupted and persihing dieing you shall die ############################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################# IF YOU HAD TROUBLE READING MY POST HERE IS A SUMMARY . here is summary man made doctrine are inherently illegitimate .if you have right to decried what is good and evil so does a another man if but have right the same man will have right as mob of people if one man says kill the Jews and mob says that is bad or the mob says kill the jews that a man says that is bad . now then if there is a policy that will kill one million people one says that is bad and another says it is a success who is right ? for both have a inherent right to deiced good and evil and both contradict each but because both have a right to do  so both are right and both are wrong for according to the man who said it is success but his view measured against the other mans view standard is wrong but if according to his standard it is he correct and the other man's standard it is wrong and vise versa the other man standard says it is failure and the other success . anyway both are right and wrong . Human doctrine is inherently illegitimate right or not . Ultimately it comes down to power who has the power to impose themselves weither through numbers or guns or what ever form it might be . but ultiamtly LORD GOD decied good and evil and as it is written stone the builders rejected has become the head of the cornor and two whom shall fall on shall be broken and the one whom it falls on shall be ground into powder. TRUTH VS POWER :LORD GOD WORD IS THE TRUTH VS POWER OF MAN DOCTRINE . GOD has set the standard of good and evil and those who adhere to it and who accepts him as their LORD and obeys them so they shall be justifed via christ and live on to eternity with GOD and shall go back to the garden and live forever but those who reject GOD and will not obey shall be destroyed though the wicked weild the power of death but because this person as sinned againts GOD by putting himself before and other GOD shall destroy him and will destroy as much as he before he is destroyed but the man who is loyal to LORD GOD shall be ressurected and beyond the hands of the wicked and shall never suffer again . for LORD GOD wield power over life and death and those who die in christ shall live forever for LORD GOD can ressurcect and put to death whom he wishs at his will he is THE LORD GOD the LORD of HEAVEN AND EARTH and his LAW is the TRUE LAW OF LOVE . for in us is sprite that tell us to serve GOD love others our selves but corrupted humanity is defile what should come natural is unnatural for we inheirt the corrupt nature from adam and eve and now a standard is set those who adhere to GOD standard of Good and evil shall be killed by this world for the whole world is in rebellion in league with devil . The children of the devil who serves themselves and put thesleves before other and there is those in obedience a minority the wicked will kill them but GOD shall raise them up on the last day and beyond the ravenous claws of the wicked and live forever with GOD in relationship with him in the garden but the wicked killed by God and then shall be ressurected they will recognize recognize Christ then killed again they shall remain in the grave forever while the christians live in renewed earth with LORD GOD and JESUS and fellow christians . JESUS said . John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations so there is obedience to GOd and life and hated of this world and be slain then ressurected on the last day then life on to eternity with GOD and they are beyond the hands of devil and his children . Then there is rebellion and loved of men then killed by GOD for your sins and then ressurected 1000 years after christ second coming and die after they recoginze christ then die again this time for good . As ot is written Matthew 21:42-44 King James Version (KJV) 42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. hat ipost i posted somewhere else and understood and agreed though it was difficult this man did and he agreeded with me .  Zaphod Bebelbrox Ooowhee! I forced myself to read your narrative to the end. I just got back from a much needed nap following the reading I believe that I can agree with what you have said. I just found it extremely difficult to read your long comment due the utter lack of proper punctuation, run together sentences that would make running bulls in Spain blush with embarrassment and absolutely no break in the rant. Other than that, I might assume that you may be, by some slim chance, that of your actually being SPOT ON. G'day
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    1 Samuel 15:23
    For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.


    this was comment a man made i did not make this comment it about this
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    This is the type of thing that happens when you have a woman preacher. Yell at me if you like, but there is no such example of this in the Bible! If God wanted women to preach, then one of the Apostles would have been a woman! There are reasons for this that I won't get into and you can scream if you want to but God is a "He" who is also the "Father" of Jesus. Adam was created first for a reason and Eve is called "woman" after the name of "man"; hence the name "wo-man". Eve was to be an "help meet" for Adam.
    I Corinthians 11:3-12 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. 12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
    When a woman and man marry they then become "one"; this is not to say that they are now one soul or person, but they become one in mind and purpose! People almost always get the word "one" wrong especially when it comes to Jesus. Jesus wanted to be "one" with his Apostles, this meaning one in mind and purpose. Being one does not allow the man to beat his wife or to treat her poorly. Being one means that they both love and respect each other and yet make decisions together as one mind. When a woman marries, then her priorities change and she cares for her husband just as the man cares for his wife. A man that does not work will not eat; it is in the Bible, therefore a man should provide for his wife. This is not to say that a woman cannot work if she so desires, but if she has children is given responsibility to care for them. Her body itself teaches that she feeds an infant from her own body, for this is the nature of things. In this way it is also shown that it is her part to nurture her children, but this is does not leave the man out by any means. If you believe that women preachers are in the Bible then you had better read it again to see what women really did and what the purpose for their doing it was. What queen without a king did Israel ever have over his people? He allowed them to have a king and not a queen! There is an order, but ungodly people hate it and want to destroy it! Once you get out of his "order" then everything is lost! The woman preacher mentioned in this video should read the Bible; then she would know that God is a masculine person for He is the Father of Jesus Christ! When the Bible uses the words "weaker vessel" (verse 7 below) , people absolutely freak out! The word weaker just means that women have a tendency to be more nurturing or caring or have a more tender heart. People don't like these words so they go to other versions of the Bible which either hide or eliminate these things altogether! Note that the NIV leaves out 20 pages of text out of a 1200 page Bible! They are torn out of the Bible! Much of these words are the words of Jesus! If you have the wrong Bible you don't have the Word of God!
    I Peter 3:1-9 1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. 8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
    I will add the following concerning women speaking in terms of authority in the Church:
    I Timothy 2:9-15 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. I Timothy 3:1-16 Someone in the ministry MUST be the husband of one wife; this is of course if he is married! Peter was married while Paul was not married! I am not going to explain the offices of a Bishop, or what a deacon is. My point is that a woman cannot be the husband of one wife and they are not a man so therefore do NOT qualify! 1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus. 14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: 15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
    There are five offices in the ministry and they are (verse 11): A bishop is a more general term, while the deacon is not included as an office in the ministry.
    Ephesians 4:11-16 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

    1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV
    31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

    Instructions to Women
    timothy 2 KJV
    9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

    ◄ Titus 2 ►
    King James Bible Par ▾
    Teaching Sound Doctrine
    1But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
    3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
    6Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. 7In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
    9Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; 10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
    Revelation 2 King James Version (KJV)
    18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.28 And I will give him the morning star.29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
    https://hellochristian.com/12188-what-does-the-bible-say-about-women-female-pastors-leadership-roles?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019Mar05&mtc= WOMAN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PREACHERS OR LEADERS IN THE CHURCH 1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king. this was comment a man made i did not make this comment it about this https://www.christianpost.com/news/atheist-minister-continues-fight-to-remain-ordained-in-united-church-of-canada.html This is the type of thing that happens when you have a woman preacher. Yell at me if you like, but there is no such example of this in the Bible! If God wanted women to preach, then one of the Apostles would have been a woman! There are reasons for this that I won't get into and you can scream if you want to but God is a "He" who is also the "Father" of Jesus. Adam was created first for a reason and Eve is called "woman" after the name of "man"; hence the name "wo-man". Eve was to be an "help meet" for Adam. I Corinthians 11:3-12 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. 12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. When a woman and man marry they then become "one"; this is not to say that they are now one soul or person, but they become one in mind and purpose! People almost always get the word "one" wrong especially when it comes to Jesus. Jesus wanted to be "one" with his Apostles, this meaning one in mind and purpose. Being one does not allow the man to beat his wife or to treat her poorly. Being one means that they both love and respect each other and yet make decisions together as one mind. When a woman marries, then her priorities change and she cares for her husband just as the man cares for his wife. A man that does not work will not eat; it is in the Bible, therefore a man should provide for his wife. This is not to say that a woman cannot work if she so desires, but if she has children is given responsibility to care for them. Her body itself teaches that she feeds an infant from her own body, for this is the nature of things. In this way it is also shown that it is her part to nurture her children, but this is does not leave the man out by any means. If you believe that women preachers are in the Bible then you had better read it again to see what women really did and what the purpose for their doing it was. What queen without a king did Israel ever have over his people? He allowed them to have a king and not a queen! There is an order, but ungodly people hate it and want to destroy it! Once you get out of his "order" then everything is lost! The woman preacher mentioned in this video should read the Bible; then she would know that God is a masculine person for He is the Father of Jesus Christ! When the Bible uses the words "weaker vessel" (verse 7 below) , people absolutely freak out! The word weaker just means that women have a tendency to be more nurturing or caring or have a more tender heart. People don't like these words so they go to other versions of the Bible which either hide or eliminate these things altogether! Note that the NIV leaves out 20 pages of text out of a 1200 page Bible! They are torn out of the Bible! Much of these words are the words of Jesus! If you have the wrong Bible you don't have the Word of God! I Peter 3:1-9 1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. 8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. I will add the following concerning women speaking in terms of authority in the Church: I Timothy 2:9-15 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. I Timothy 3:1-16 Someone in the ministry MUST be the husband of one wife; this is of course if he is married! Peter was married while Paul was not married! I am not going to explain the offices of a Bishop, or what a deacon is. My point is that a woman cannot be the husband of one wife and they are not a man so therefore do NOT qualify! 1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus. 14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: 15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. There are five offices in the ministry and they are (verse 11): A bishop is a more general term, while the deacon is not included as an office in the ministry. Ephesians 4:11-16 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. 1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV 31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. Instructions to Women timothy 2 KJV 9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. ◄ Titus 2 ► King James Bible Par ▾ Teaching Sound Doctrine 1But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. 3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. 6Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. 7In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you. 9Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; 10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. Revelation 2 King James Version (KJV) 18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.28 And I will give him the morning star.29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
    Women Pastors... What Does the Bible Say?
    Let me begin by saying that I know and appreciate many women who have been recognized as pastors. They are diligent, steadfast, and hard-working. Our country has done a great disservice to women over
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    1 Samuel 15:23
    For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.


    this was comment a man made i did not make this comment it about this
    https://www.christianpost.com/news/atheist-minister-continues-fight-to-remain-ordained-in-united-church-of-canada.html
    This is the type of thing that happens when you have a woman preacher. Yell at me if you like, but there is no such example of this in the Bible! If God wanted women to preach, then one of the Apostles would have been a woman! There are reasons for this that I won't get into and you can scream if you want to but God is a "He" who is also the "Father" of Jesus. Adam was created first for a reason and Eve is called "woman" after the name of "man"; hence the name "wo-man". Eve was to be an "help meet" for Adam.
    I Corinthians 11:3-12 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. 12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
    When a woman and man marry they then become "one"; this is not to say that they are now one soul or person, but they become one in mind and purpose! People almost always get the word "one" wrong especially when it comes to Jesus. Jesus wanted to be "one" with his Apostles, this meaning one in mind and purpose. Being one does not allow the man to beat his wife or to treat her poorly. Being one means that they both love and respect each other and yet make decisions together as one mind. When a woman marries, then her priorities change and she cares for her husband just as the man cares for his wife. A man that does not work will not eat; it is in the Bible, therefore a man should provide for his wife. This is not to say that a woman cannot work if she so desires, but if she has children is given responsibility to care for them. Her body itself teaches that she feeds an infant from her own body, for this is the nature of things. In this way it is also shown that it is her part to nurture her children, but this is does not leave the man out by any means. If you believe that women preachers are in the Bible then you had better read it again to see what women really did and what the purpose for their doing it was. What queen without a king did Israel ever have over his people? He allowed them to have a king and not a queen! There is an order, but ungodly people hate it and want to destroy it! Once you get out of his "order" then everything is lost! The woman preacher mentioned in this video should read the Bible; then she would know that God is a masculine person for He is the Father of Jesus Christ! When the Bible uses the words "weaker vessel" (verse 7 below) , people absolutely freak out! The word weaker just means that women have a tendency to be more nurturing or caring or have a more tender heart. People don't like these words so they go to other versions of the Bible which either hide or eliminate these things altogether! Note that the NIV leaves out 20 pages of text out of a 1200 page Bible! They are torn out of the Bible! Much of these words are the words of Jesus! If you have the wrong Bible you don't have the Word of God!
    I Peter 3:1-9 1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. 8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
    I will add the following concerning women speaking in terms of authority in the Church:
    I Timothy 2:9-15 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. I Timothy 3:1-16 Someone in the ministry MUST be the husband of one wife; this is of course if he is married! Peter was married while Paul was not married! I am not going to explain the offices of a Bishop, or what a deacon is. My point is that a woman cannot be the husband of one wife and they are not a man so therefore do NOT qualify! 1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus. 14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: 15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
    There are five offices in the ministry and they are (verse 11): A bishop is a more general term, while the deacon is not included as an office in the ministry.
    Ephesians 4:11-16 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

    1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV
    31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

    Instructions to Women
    timothy 2 KJV
    9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

    ◄ Titus 2 ►
    King James Bible Par ▾
    Teaching Sound Doctrine
    1But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
    3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
    6Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. 7In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
    9Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; 10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.
    Revelation 2 King James Version (KJV)
    18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.28 And I will give him the morning star.29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    https://hellochristian.com/12111-lutheran-liberal-pastor-nadia-bolz-weber-purity-ring-vagina-statue-makers-conference?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019Feb18&mtc= . Look at how degenrate the west has become woman are not allowed to be preachers or leaders in the church men and woman have their role . anyway a man made this comment i did not make this comment but i copied it as i though it was pretty good .. WOMAN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PREACHERS OR LEADERS IN THE CHURCH 1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king. this was comment a man made i did not make this comment it about this https://www.christianpost.com/news/atheist-minister-continues-fight-to-remain-ordained-in-united-church-of-canada.html This is the type of thing that happens when you have a woman preacher. Yell at me if you like, but there is no such example of this in the Bible! If God wanted women to preach, then one of the Apostles would have been a woman! There are reasons for this that I won't get into and you can scream if you want to but God is a "He" who is also the "Father" of Jesus. Adam was created first for a reason and Eve is called "woman" after the name of "man"; hence the name "wo-man". Eve was to be an "help meet" for Adam. I Corinthians 11:3-12 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. 12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. When a woman and man marry they then become "one"; this is not to say that they are now one soul or person, but they become one in mind and purpose! People almost always get the word "one" wrong especially when it comes to Jesus. Jesus wanted to be "one" with his Apostles, this meaning one in mind and purpose. Being one does not allow the man to beat his wife or to treat her poorly. Being one means that they both love and respect each other and yet make decisions together as one mind. When a woman marries, then her priorities change and she cares for her husband just as the man cares for his wife. A man that does not work will not eat; it is in the Bible, therefore a man should provide for his wife. This is not to say that a woman cannot work if she so desires, but if she has children is given responsibility to care for them. Her body itself teaches that she feeds an infant from her own body, for this is the nature of things. In this way it is also shown that it is her part to nurture her children, but this is does not leave the man out by any means. If you believe that women preachers are in the Bible then you had better read it again to see what women really did and what the purpose for their doing it was. What queen without a king did Israel ever have over his people? He allowed them to have a king and not a queen! There is an order, but ungodly people hate it and want to destroy it! Once you get out of his "order" then everything is lost! The woman preacher mentioned in this video should read the Bible; then she would know that God is a masculine person for He is the Father of Jesus Christ! When the Bible uses the words "weaker vessel" (verse 7 below) , people absolutely freak out! The word weaker just means that women have a tendency to be more nurturing or caring or have a more tender heart. People don't like these words so they go to other versions of the Bible which either hide or eliminate these things altogether! Note that the NIV leaves out 20 pages of text out of a 1200 page Bible! They are torn out of the Bible! Much of these words are the words of Jesus! If you have the wrong Bible you don't have the Word of God! I Peter 3:1-9 1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. 8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. I will add the following concerning women speaking in terms of authority in the Church: I Timothy 2:9-15 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. I Timothy 3:1-16 Someone in the ministry MUST be the husband of one wife; this is of course if he is married! Peter was married while Paul was not married! I am not going to explain the offices of a Bishop, or what a deacon is. My point is that a woman cannot be the husband of one wife and they are not a man so therefore do NOT qualify! 1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus. 14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly: 15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. There are five offices in the ministry and they are (verse 11): A bishop is a more general term, while the deacon is not included as an office in the ministry. Ephesians 4:11-16 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. 1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV 31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. Instructions to Women timothy 2 KJV 9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. ◄ Titus 2 ► King James Bible Par ▾ Teaching Sound Doctrine 1But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. 3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. 6Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded. 7In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, 8Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you. 9Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; 10Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. Revelation 2 King James Version (KJV) 18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.28 And I will give him the morning star.29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
    Liberal Lutheran "Pastor" Nadia Bolz-Weber Gifts Vagina Statue Made From Melted Purity Rings To Gloria Steinem
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